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8 posts 05 Nov 2009 12:57

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My reasoning was this: 4BB raise is relatively big for the average 50NL player, so I figured it was likely a big pair or AK/AQ. Most of us 50NL fish give up on c-betting when we miss the turn, so I thought I'd call the flop c-bet and see how strong he'd play the turn. Then he basically puts me all in and I decide he probably KK/QQ. 3-betting pre puts me oop with JJ and raising the flop is costly.
Too careful?

Table #21609302 - Pardalote 2
Starting Hand #1035469746
Start time of hand: 05 Nov 2009 12:35:24
Last Hand #1035468539
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: RING
Money Type: REAL MONEY
Blinds are now $0.25/$0.50
Button is at seat 4
Seat 1: pleurepa - $50
Seat 2: yohann1062 - $44
Seat 3: MJ747 - $7.01
Seat 4: gipsplaat - $43.75
Seat 5: stephlec - $36.20
Seat 6: Robbieweeza - $62.58
Moving Button to seat 5
Robbieweeza posts small blind ($0.25)
pleurepa posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Js Jd] to Robbieweeza
yohann1062 folds
MJ747 folds
gipsplaat raises to $2.50
stephlec folds
Robbieweeza calls $2.50
pleurepa calls $2.50
Dealing Flop [2c 9d 2s]
Robbieweeza checks
pleurepa checks
gipsplaat bets $7.50
Robbieweeza calls $7.50
pleurepa folds
Dealing Turn [6c]
Robbieweeza checks
gipsplaat bets $15
Robbieweeza: Bah
Robbieweeza folds and shows [Js Jd]
Taking Rake of $1.12 from pot 1
gipsplaat doesn't show
gipsplaat wins $21.38
Seat 1: pleurepa - $47.50
Seat 2: yohann1062 - $44
Seat 3: MJ747 - $7.01
Seat 4: gipsplaat - $55.13
Seat 5: stephlec - $36.20
Seat 6: Robbieweeza - $52.58
End Of Hand #1035469746

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Posted: 05-Nov-2009 14:10 by Littlewood

I don't know the villain, so it's hard to say. But his betting smacks of an overpair. Could be 10's on one day, Q's or K's on the next. Hard to say. I think it depends on your attitude on the day whether you shove this one or not...

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Posted: 05-Nov-2009 14:15 by ScottyStarburst

flat turn, call river shove or shove if checked to you imo

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Posted: 05-Nov-2009 14:15 by ScottyStarburst

oh ur first to act then. call turn shove river

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Posted: 05-Nov-2009 15:50 by jdnorway

Why are we not 3-betting pre 6-handed here?

I hate playing jacks oop as much as the next guy, but surely, if 50NL plays as tight as I've seen/been told, surely a 4-bet pre would mean you're facing an overpair to your hand or AK like 30% of the time, and a call would mean you're 85% sure you're ahead after the flop, so you can V-bet teh fook out of it.

No?

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Posted: 05-Nov-2009 16:04 by mike456111

I would like a 3 bet on the flop.
but as player you almost have to call down turn and river.
But as any situation its player dependant

great post

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Posted: 05-Nov-2009 16:51 by marvinc023

I like the 3 bet pre flop here instead of flat calling his bet OOP.

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Edited on 05 Nov 2009 17:47 by MrPatel7

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Posted: 05-Nov-2009 17:40 by MrPatel7

Find out where you stand? 3bet pre? or raise flop? Most the tards on 50/100nl can't fold weaker holdings in these spots and usually let you know when they're strong by overplaying their hands.
A raise in either spot gives you the info to fold or shove/call.
Is 2.50 his standard raise?

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 05:36 by flesicher123

wow so the guy who called me an idiot and thinks i suck at poker plays 25/50cent and is asking for help. No comment except your a tight nit and re raise preflop or on flop