The incredible power of variance in poker
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Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:00
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Just found this neat little tool linked somewhere else so I thought I'd make a post about variance in poker and how scared of it you all should be.
http://www.pokervariancesimulator.fr/
I put in my stats so far this year and this was the result

Basically what that means is someone with the exact same real winrate as me over my hand sample of 385,000 hands could be up as much as $120,000 or as little as $20,000.
Over 1.5million hands with my current win rate and standard deviation , easily 3 years full time poker the graph looks like this
It's converged somewhat but there is still about $250,000 between the top guy and the bottom guy. Remember these are 50 hypothetical people with exactly the same stats some ran good some ran bad. So the next time you read a dickwaving brag thread just remember exactly how much variance there is in poker these graphs show it's easily possible to go on prolonged heaters when you're actually not all that good of a player. Something to think about anyway...
Posted: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:27 by Kloonike
In other words, if you are a losing player and haven't played at least a million hands, keep playing, because you might be just running bad.
Here's an interesting one these are the graphs of 50 2big blind/100 losers at 2/4NL over 300,000 hands.
notice a few of them are breakeven/up slightly and one is up nearly $20,000
edit either I'm dumb at posting images or this forum is dumb at having images posted on it but here is the direct link
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7044/varilose.jpg
Yo gyc, whats your standard deviation/what s.d u using for the losing player graph?
where did u find these stats?
sharkscope?
my std dev/100 is $378. Anyone else?
mayeb those payers who continually claim they are good and just run bad having played the game only 2 years aer sometimes right...........
im happy i have another 18months of running good left.......

Posted: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:38 by Kloonike
my std dev/100 is $378. Anyone else?
giveyourcash, 21/07/2009
Same $/100, but with 75/100 SD. Now I feel good about playing NL100.
Posted: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:27 by ponydef
amazing graph. thanks for posting!
Posted: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:25 by ralfson
food for thought
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