Views Please on a mix of AIP and Non AIP tables

There've been several threads on AIP recently and I raised a question (posted in another thread) about the practise of having both AIP and non AIP tables which I felt deserved a thread on it's own

Many players are asking for a mix of AIP and Non AIP tables, but PKR have not yet moved on the idea. The reason for posting this is to encourage people to talk through how a mix of Non AIP and AIP tables would work on this site. Pros and Cons.

Do other sites have this feature? I have no idea.

Would honest players who prefer AIP (like Scottystarburst) be all alone on their AIP tables if this were implemented? In other words would these tables get enough action for him?

Would there be a stigma in sitting at these tables after the Non AIP ones have been introduced?

How would PKR market the new facility (without it sounding negative)?

I just thought it would be a good idea for the community to answer these questions as no doubt PKR are thinking about them and just perhaps we can reassure them that it's a good idea

Over to you guys

Hi Dunbar, I know how strongly you feel about this

As it happens, I know a fair bit about software and I'm sure the new features could be incorporated easily. I was trying to get into their heads (PKR's) a litle bit with my post and look at HOW such a feature would be implemented - HOW it would be marketed, how the community would react to it and so on.

I believe they're thinking about it for sure and I imagine that there must be some good reasons why this hasn't been done yet, and no I'm not being a sycophant. I was trying to bring to light the potential issues that I could think of and see if we can thrash them out in the open with the community to see if we can approach the idea as 'one'.

FYI, I hate DC abusers too - not because I have been a victim but because I abhor cheaters in general.

But I'm trying to keep a narrow focus with this thread. WHAT are the pros and cons of a mix of Non AIP and AIP tables, and if we were PKR how would we get around the cons?

/orly

Ya think?

I think it's a lot more contoversial than that.

TBH I can't see how you can easily put a positive spin on it at all - whichever way you package it, it sounds negative as it deals with disconnection which is an unhappy state of affairs and is therefore not a good thing to promote on a poker site. It highlights a weakness in on-line poker regarding connections which is bad news for marketing folks and PRs. Cards-up tables is a far more netral subject as far as PKR looking 'good' is concerned and a positive spin can be put on it.

That''s why I made this thread - maybe some bright spark can think of a neutral way this can be lauched to the community with PKR.

OK - here are a few computery facts.

Other sites have no need for discon protection because of their 2D software.

To put it in layman's terms - everytime you make a bet on PKR a huge amount of computer and network load is created. Every animation you make has to be sent accross the network and every animation, every gesture, every voice, every mood, every outfit, that everyone else has and makes has to be sent and received by everyone else - and executed on their computer. This makes for a huge load on both computer and network making disconnections due to computer or network lag much more likely than at other sites.

At other sites there is a tiny demand made of the network and PC. Just look at the relative space they take up on your hard disk for a comparison.

All this means that discon protection serves a genuine purpose (even if the majority of us don't like it). Discons ARE more likely on PKR given the software and power of most players PC's. That's just a fact. That's why I'm sure PKR introduced it, even though it has potential for abuse.

So it still being needed seems to be a given. That means the only option is a mix of tables until computer and newtork power cancel out the need for it - which is probably a long way off.

Hmmmm... I had an idea - maybe instead of focussing on the non AIP tables in the message - they could focus on the AIP ones and lay the blame with the networks. Something like, "we will continue to offer tables where our discon protection facility will still operate for those users that have not got access to bandwidth prioritisation with their network provider - but we will now offer a selection of tables where that functionality is disabled for those that prefer it".

I should be in marketing.