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crocodile78
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Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:08
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crocodile78 44 posts Sardine

Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:08 by crocodile78

i was playing $5 double through when this hand occured
Table #21576738 - STT #13193418
Starting Hand #1034079669
Start time of hand: 04 Nov 2009 05:25:32
Last Hand #1034079558
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: TOURNAMENT
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now $125/$250
Button is at seat 5
Seat 2: vaness1983 - $1,725
Seat 3: playeraaa - $3,605
Seat 5: crocodile78 - $1,995
Seat 6: PorscheRoyal - $798
Seat 8: NicoArgy - $2,507
Seat 9: Lunkerman - $2,060
Seat 10: Xt0muchX - $2,310
Moving Button to seat 6
NicoArgy posts small blind ($125)
Lunkerman posts big blind ($250)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing to crocodile78
PorscheRoyal: i get 2 str8 flush
Xt0muchX folds
vaness1983 raises to $500
playeraaa folds
PorscheRoyal: this royal was on turn and river
crocodile78 calls $500
PorscheRoyal folds
NicoArgy folds
Lunkerman folds
Dealing Flop
vaness1983 bets $250
PorscheRoyal: cruise chip ,25 ,50
crocodile78 raises to $750
vaness1983 raises to $1,225 (all-in)
crocodile78 calls $1,225
vaness1983 shows
crocodile78 shows
Dealing Turn
Dealing River
vaness1983 has One Pair: 5s
crocodile78 has Flush, Queen high
crocodile78 wins $3,825 with: Flush, Queen high

after this hand the lovely lady abused me to hell,im no pro but thought my call was more than reasonable and in hindsight 100% correct.any advice or thoughts.
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cheseontoast 41 posts Sardine

Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:11 by cheseontoast

short awnser.....

no. you made the correct call, they were just pissed they didnt hit there flush wink ignore dem!
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crocodile78 44 posts Sardine

Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:12 by crocodile78

also while the call was more than 25% my stack,id folded every hand in the 1st 25 mins of the game(omg) and won all but 1(i lost my 100 call 77) hand that i did call til this point.
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cheseontoast 41 posts Sardine

Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:35 by cheseontoast

Well you waited and it paid dividends!

/gg
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misu81 45 posts Sardine

Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:00 by misu81

Edited: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:01 by misu81

maybe she thinks the cards coming in a line untill she got somethig stronger then yours . . .
LOL
dont mind the donks mate, there is a lot of ''player'' who cant lose with AK, they thing its unbeatable. /boooo
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Robbieweeza 5513 posts Moray Eel

Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:46 by Robbieweeza

I guess I'll be the first to give you a real answer...

No, you do not deserve to be abused, because no one deserves to be abused for how they play. That said, you did play this hand awfully. You have 8BB, you should be in shove/fold mode by now. Calling a min raise pre for 25% of your stack with Q high is not a yellow brick road towards winning a tournament. Same thing goes for the flop, all in or fold.

You say you hadn't played a lot of hands and showed many winning hands. How does this make a call better? It makes a bet or raise look more powerful! That's what a tight image is for; agression. Passive play will get you nowhere.
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ANGERMONKEY1980 382 posts Pufferfish

Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:58 by ANGERMONKEY1980

Edited: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:04 by ANGERMONKEY1980

Well it got him somewhere here. I know what you mean though playin a Qhi flush prayer in the D thru but its a far better strategy than sitting there being the nit! I do like 2 play JQsooted but wouldnt want to shove with it.
I stopped playin DT's coz the reward is not enough to endure the boredom of the nits... and when they get to 1xbb and hit it after everyone calls them in.... makes me want to throw them off rudy poo bridge!!!
I got some abuse the other a day from a ladette... I wont say lady coz she AINT one INNIT!!!
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whiskymac 6974 posts Bull Shark

Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:08 by whiskymac

I guess I'll be the first to give you a real answer...

No, you do not deserve to be abused, because no one deserves to be abused for how they play. That said, you did play this hand awfully. You have 8BB, you should be in shove/fold mode by now. Calling a min raise pre for 25% of your stack with Q high is not a yellow brick road towards winning a tournament. Same thing goes for the flop, all in or fold.

You say you hadn't played a lot of hands and showed many winning hands. How does this make a call better? It makes a bet or raise look more powerful! That's what a tight image is for; agression. Passive play will get you nowhere.

Robbieweeza, 04/11/2009

Normally I would agree with this but its a double through so differnet rules apply.

Calling a min raise in late position with JQs is fine and still leaves you enough chips to play if you miss. The re-raise on the flop is ok but might as well be an allin as you can't ever fold.

The AK guy is the one who played it bad. Min raise preflop is just asking for action. Min bet leadout - wtf is that all about and shoving the re-raise, which can't be folded, with air and a flush draw is just hoping for a miracle lol
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SOTVandy 550 posts Scorpionfish

Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:19 by SOTVandy

Vaness played it worse than you. Min raise with AK off??? Now thats bad play!!
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crocodile78 44 posts Sardine

Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:35 by crocodile78

ty all for the replies.as i said im no pro ,but think it better to call than push preflop as whiskey says it leaves me chips to play if i miss,but im still learning and this is another lesson.thanks again 4 the advice.
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