HAYE vs. VALUEV

By poseidon1963

15 posts 02 Nov 2009 23:40

Edited on 02 Nov 2009 23:41 by poseidon1963

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A quick last post for any boxing fans out there.

I think Haye could be the first boxer to KO or stop Valuev. Haye's just too fast and powerful for the current Heavyweight division and will be the next undisputed champion. Granted Valuev is a better boxer than he is given credit for, but if a 110 yr old Holyfield can boss him around what chance has he got against the speed, movement and power of Haye?

Unless Haye really has got a glass jawSurprised

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Tag1981

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Looking foward to this one, not a massive boxing fan myself but I am going to watch this one.

Will be just interesting seeing him punch "upwards" /lol

Happy

MeneGeneOkerland

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I am a big Haye fan, and although I think he has the beating of him. I just hope he has trained enough as he seems to have done an awful lot of promotion work and mouthing off. Valuev on the otherhand has kept relatively quiet.

He also hasn't been in his usual training camp of Cyprus due to promotional commitments

Many a good fighter have underestimated their opponents in the past which has ended in defeat

But apart from that

GO HAYEMAKER!!!

MichaelEvo

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I love the big boxing matches, but ive got a huge decision to make now........my mums 50th birthday party or sneak out and watch the fight.....???

Ruskie

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^^ No brainer. Get her drunk enough so she wont notice you sneaking out! Happy

Now this is interesting to me.

6ft 5in HEIGHT 7ft 2in

15st 5lb WEIGHT 23st

81in REACH 88in

17in NECK 21½in

42in CHEST 52in

11in FIST 14½in

16in BICEP 18in

32in WAIST 48in

Giving away a 7" reach difference he needs to box on the inside. Can David Haye really do that ??
Hmm


MichaelEvo

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you know the odds, i wouldnt mind a couple of quiddies on it lol

jimmyfizzels

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do you think there might be a few below the belt decisions

MeneGeneOkerland

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LOL tell me thats his Mrs. I notice the toys on the floor but no kid. Did he mistakingly eat it.

MeneGeneOkerland

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I also bet they dont do missionary

jimmyfizzels

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I also bet they dont do missionary

MeneGeneOkerland, 03/11/2009

lmao

MeneGeneOkerland

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To Win Fight

David Haye 8/15 Nikolay Valuev 11/8

Total Rounds

Over 10.5 4/7 Under 10.5 5/4

Round Betting

David Haye to win in round 1 25/1
David Haye to win in round 2 25/1
David Haye to win in round 3 25/1
David Haye to win in round 4 25/1
David Haye to win in round 5 22/1
David Haye to win in round 6 22/1
David Haye to win in round 7 22/1
David Haye to win in round 8 28/1
David Haye to win in round 9 28/1
David Haye to win in round 10 28/1
David Haye to win in round 11 33/1
David Haye to win in round 12 33/1
David Haye by Decision or Technical Decision 13/8
Nikolay Valuev to win in round 1 40/1
Nikolay Valuev to win in round 2 40/1
Nikolay Valuev to win in round 3 40/1
Nikolay Valuev to win in round 4 40/1
Nikolay Valuev to win in round 5 33/1
Nikolay Valuev to win in round 6 33/1
Nikolay Valuev to win in round 7 33/1
Nikolay Valuev to win in round 8 33/1
Nikolay Valuev to win in round 9 33/1
Nikolay Valuev to win in round 10 33/1
Nikolay Valuev to win in round 11 40/1
Nikolay Valuev to win in round 12 40/1
Nikolay Valuev by Decision or Technical Decision 3/1
Draw or Technical Draw 28/1

Round Group Betting


David Haye to win in rounds 1 - 3 8/1
David Haye to win in rounds 4 - 6 8/1
David Haye to win in rounds 7 - 9 11/1
David Haye to win in rounds 10 - 12 16/1
David Haye by Decision or Technical Decision 13/8
Nikolay Valuev to win in rounds 1 - 3 18/1
Nikolay Valuev to win in rounds 4 - 6 16/1
Nikolay Valuev to win in rounds 7 - 9 14/1
Nikolay Valuev to win in rounds 10 -12 16/1
Nikolay Valuev by Decision or Technical Decision 3/1
Draw or Technical Draw 28/1

Fight Outcome (5 Way)

David Haye by KO, TKO or Disqualification 5/2
David Haye by Decision or Technical Decision 13/8
Nikolay Valuev by KO, TKO or Disqualification 7/2
Nikolay Valuev by Decision or Technical Decision 3/1
Draw or Technical Draw 28/1


poseidon1963

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Yeah I was a little worried by thr amount of promotional work, but 25-1 for round 3 & 8-1 for rounds1-3 is to good to turn down Happy

Interestingly, I saw the following article on Sky sports today. Not only the no 1 trainer in the world, but has proven himself to be an extremely astute judge of fights and fighters styles. Go HayeHappy

Freddie Roach says David Haye will knock out Nikolai Valuev.

The legendary trainer, currently preparing for Manny Pacquiao's stellar showdown with Miguel Cotto, is adamant the Londoner will be "flatten" the giant Russian on Saturday.

Haye will be conceding almost 10 inches in height and anything up to seven stones in weight at the Nuremberg Arena, live on Sky Box Office.

But Roach is no stranger to taking down bigger opponents having recently guided Pacquiao past Oscar de la Hoya and Ricky Hatton, and believes the Hayemaker will have too much for Valuev.

"Haye will flatten Valuev, he'll crush him," he told Telegraph Sport. "He's too fast, too strong, too aggressive.

"Haye will become the first man to knock Valuev out. Sure, the big guy has shown he is resilient, and I'm surprised he can go 12 rounds without getting tired because he is so heavy, but with Haye's power and speed he's going to get KO'd."

Roach also believes that Haye is the man to spark some much-needed life into the heavyweight division.

The Klitschko brothers currently hold three of the four titles, with Wladimir in posession of the IBF and WBO and Vitali the WBC belt.

Haye has seen fights with both of them fall through and having upset them both with the infamous severed head T-shirt, might struggle to tempt them into a unification bout should he beat Valuev.

But Roach, who will also join up with Amir Khan shortly for his December showdown with Dmitriy Salita, says he is just the man to breathe new life into the blue riband division.

"Haye believes in himself, he talks a bit of bull, but he's just trying to ignite interest in the fight," he said. "He's young, exciting, and charismatic.

"Haye's the best thing for the heavyweight division right now, because he comes to fight, he comes to win, and he's a puncher.

"That's what heavyweight boxing should be all about. The Klitschko brothers are great boxers but they are boring. They don't take risks. You've got to go for it in this sport, and give 100 per cent.

"Manny Pacquiao is popular because he comes to exchange with you, he wants to fight. Once in a while he gets hit, but that is part of the game. Haye is the spark the heavyweight division needs right now.

"I'm sure Haye is going to win this fight. (Evander) Holyfield got a bad decision last year against Valuev, but Holyfield won that fight.

"If a shot 46-year-old Holyfield can beat Valuev, a young David Haye with speed and power means he will be the first guy to KO Valuev."

poseidon1963

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bumpHappy

datgsta

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wp david haye, wins on majority decision

114-114---numpty german ref
116-112
116-112

gpj77

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114-114---numpty german ref

lol i know, valuev wasn't close to even drawing imo, especially after the last round.

poseidon1963

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Well done David Haye an incredibly easy win. Obviously, boxing to very strict tactics that were effective, but the last round showed that with a little bit more agression earlier and he would easily knocked Valuev out.

Apparently Haye's right hand was broken early in the fight so that probably explains some of his lack of agression and why he never really tried to follow up)

P.S. I still think he'll knock out both of the Klitschko brothers. Too much speed and power (when he chooses to use it)

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