what do u think he has ??

By discomonkey

14 posts 03 Nov 2009 00:04

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27,500 Guarantee (115347974), Table 70 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:53:28 ET - 2009/11/02
Seat 1: suckoutonme21 (1,048)
Seat 2: nutgrabber (4,385)
Seat 3: marc2301 (6,522)
Seat 4: Iplaypkerporly (7,390)
Seat 5: TheBeingOG (4,285)
Seat 6: seekerbr32 (1,230)
Seat 7: discomonkey (16,565)
Seat 8: Highhander (6,620)
Seat 9: fuefgerade (2,520)
Highhander posts the small blind of 40
fuefgerade posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to discomonkey [Ts Qd]
suckoutonme21 folds
nutgrabber folds
RunLikeAChettah (Observer): cant fold guter?
marc2301 folds
seekerbr32: hmmm...nh i guess
Iplaypkerporly raises to 160
TheBeingOG folds
seekerbr32 folds
discomonkey raises to 430
Highhander folds
fuefgerade folds
Iplaypkerporly has 15 seconds left to act
Iplaypkerporly calls 270
*** FLOP *** [8s Qc 4d]
Iplaypkerporly bets 240
discomonkey calls 240
*** TURN *** [8s Qc 4d] [6h]
Iplaypkerporly has 15 seconds left to act
Iplaypkerporly bets 400
discomonkey calls 400
*** RIVER *** [8s Qc 4d 6h] [9d]
Iplaypkerporly has 15 seconds left to act
Iplaypkerporly bets 2,320
discomonkey has 15 seconds left to act
discomonkey has requested TIME
discomonkey folds
Uncalled bet of 2,320 returned to Iplaypkerporly
Iplaypkerporly mucks
Iplaypkerporly wins the pot (2,260)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,260 | Rake 0
Board: [8s Qc 4d 6h 9d]
Seat 1: suckoutonme21 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: nutgrabber didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: marc2301 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Iplaypkerporly collected (2,260), mucked
Seat 5: TheBeingOG didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: seekerbr32 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: discomonkey (button) folded on the River
Seat 8: Highhander (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: fuefgerade (big blind) folded before the Flop

no real reads seems like a standard donk to me it isnt a massive buy in mtt, was just on the side as im doing 3 or 4 others........

ill post what i thoguth after some responses.

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TomWayne

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88 or 99

tigerwing

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difficult without player notes and the way this has been played. Def can be bluffing here but also set highly likely.
If I am 3-betting pre here and I hit that flop I am raising his donk bet on flop 60% or calling and then raising his turn bet 40% of the time. If I encounter resistance after raising then I guess I have to give up on hand.

Also you running so bad right now that he is prob a super donk who has 94o and you actually called but edited the above hh. You then typed in chat "Fck My Life", "ofc you had that", "why wouldn't you"
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IneedUrChips

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Is he blockbetting JT here?

I dont get ur passive c/c line if u 3bet pre and have position as well.

discomonkey

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well i have the guy marked as a standard donk and in my experience of late a lot of retards are donk betting sets/air/draws, completely polarising their range, thus raising does nothing in this spot given the draws are minimal ie jt/t9, so i peel one off on the turn and most donks will slow down if i flat there, he barrells small again which suggests to me he has something but the best is so small i have to flat getting ridiculous ods or raise which i didint really like vs the other massive stack at the table.
his bet on the river for me is one of 3 possible hand combinations,


jt......9t......set, and im actually inclined to agreee with tomwayne 99 is pretty likely as my gut at the time said he got there on the river with the tming and size of his bet it suggested he was trying to take the bluffing line on the river, which is something all the cool kids are doing now...........

i dont know what he had so this is purely speculative, but my first read was he got there on the river......

hicko715

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I personally believe he may have been holding 44 there. Weak raise to begin with and then with your re raise he was in a hu situation so probably feels he may as well call and peel a flop.

I dont put him on a draw as he'd likely check call.

But hey, what do i know....

hicko715

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Actually why go all in if he did have 44. I'm a pudding!!!!

catweasil

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aids?

xScampx

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I put him on a draw.

240 is such a lame bet - he's testing the water - and knows he can't check.

He got lucky on the river.

"Fck My Life" - lol yeah i heard it already Wink

sourshark

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he called with 7-10 off, and got there on river.... it's obvious m8....lol.....

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satfat

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v weird river bet after such a block bet type flop/turn line. its like he seelcted pot then thought ahh whats one more notch! id guess 99/Q9/89

zlatan35

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AQ or KQ

birdi67

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7 5 sooooted.. Wink

no.. i agree with ^^ AQ or KQ

DDe1979

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I think he had 7-2 offsuit.
When the rainbow flop came he may have miscounted and still thought he could hit runner-runner flush.
But on the river he realized that he hadn't a flush. Maybee he thought his 7-high was good and value-betted this hand.

Ofcourse there also a chance that he was bluffin.

discomonkey

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i think aq is at thebottom of his range here and i realy ner think he can be bluffing, i wish id called to fin out what he had cos it will do my head in haha.

i dnt think he has kq cos of the chance of me having aq, my genuine read by the river was a massive hand, and that he got there on the river if i had to pick 2 hands it could be it would be 99 or tj.

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