Shortstacks getting outdrawn.

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Posted: 11-Oct-2009 14:18 by gpj77

i know how you feel

Table #20839472 - Tournament #12742429 Table #168
Starting Hand #1001344239
Start time of hand: 11 Oct 2009 13:26:16
Last Hand #1001342461
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: TOURNAMENT
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now $150/$300
Button is at seat 1
Seat 1: hatrixX2 - $11,270
Seat 2: JoeBailey - $3,385
Seat 3: Abreu26 - $870
Seat 5: kahouett - $950
Seat 6: budedwards - $4,355
Seat 7: stakeyjake - $2,165
Seat 8: MAKEDONIAN - $3,655
Seat 9: Alvarodacost - $720
Seat 10: gpj77 - $710
Abreu26 will be dealt in after the button
Moving Button to seat 3
hatrixX2 posts ante of $25
JoeBailey posts ante of $25
kahouett posts ante of $25
budedwards posts ante of $25
stakeyjake posts ante of $25
MAKEDONIAN posts ante of $25
Alvarodacost posts ante of $25
gpj77 posts ante of $25
kahouett posts small blind ($150)
budedwards posts big blind ($300)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Kd Qh] to gpj77
SnaPLaYeR982 brings $2,130 to table 20839472
SnaPLaYeR982 has joined from Tournament Table #77
JoeBailey says hi.
stakeyjake folds
MAKEDONIAN folds
Alvarodacost folds
gpj77 raises to $685 (all-in)
hatrixX2 folds
JoeBailey folds
kahouett folds
budedwards calls $685
budedwards shows [Kc 4s]
gpj77 shows [Kd Qh]
JoeBailey laughs her *** off.
budedwards acknowledges a nice hand.
Dealing Flop [5d 6d Ks]
Dealing Turn [9c]
Dealing River [4c]
gpj77 has One Pair: Kings
budedwards has Two Pairs: Kings, 4s
budedwards wins $1,720 with: Two Pairs: Kings, 4s
gpj77 remarks on that being unlucky.
budedwards apologises.
Seat 1: hatrixX2 - $11,245
Seat 2: JoeBailey - $3,360
Seat 3: Abreu26 - $870
Seat 4: SnaPLaYeR982 - $2,130
Seat 5: kahouett - $775
Seat 6: budedwards - $5,365
Seat 7: stakeyjake - $2,140
Seat 8: MAKEDONIAN - $3,630
Seat 9: Alvarodacost - $695
Seat 10: gpj77 - $0
JoeBailey can't believe it.
End Of Hand #1001344239

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Posted: 14-Oct-2009 12:57 by gpj77

Table #20929211 - STT #12813909
Starting Hand #1005375650
Start time of hand: 14 Oct 2009 11:21:37
Last Hand #1005375101
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: TOURNAMENT
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now $50/$100
Button is at seat 9
Seat 2: mic56 - $4,060
Seat 3: gpj77 - $1,170
Seat 4: moniekje32 - $2,500
Seat 5: Sympatycu - $1,920
Seat 7: wilnel - $530
Seat 9: flamiz - $2,460
Seat 10: alessss69 - $2,360
Moving Button to seat 10
mic56 posts small blind ($50)
gpj77 posts big blind ($100)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Ac 9s] to gpj77
moniekje32 folds
Sympatycu folds
wilnel folds
flamiz calls $100
alessss69 folds
mic56 calls $100
gpj77 checks
Dealing Flop [7d 9h 6h]
mic56 bets $100
gpj77 raises to $1,070 (all-in)
flamiz folds
mic56 calls $1,070
mic56 shows [Ah 7h]
gpj77 shows [Ac 9s]
Dealing Turn [2c]
Dealing River [5h]
gpj77 has One Pair: 9s
mic56 has Flush, Ace high
mic56 wins $2,440 with: Flush, Ace high
Seat 2: mic56 - $5,330
Seat 3: gpj77 - $0
Seat 4: moniekje32 - $2,500
Seat 5: Sympatycu - $1,920
Seat 7: wilnel - $530
Seat 9: flamiz - $2,360
Seat 10: alessss69 - $2,360
End Of Hand #1005375650

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Posted: 14-Oct-2009 12:57 by gpj77

and another one

Table #20928298 - STT #12813350
Starting Hand #1005343609
Start time of hand: 14 Oct 2009 10:40:37
Last Hand #1005342809
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: TOURNAMENT
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now $100/$200
Button is at seat 1
Seat 1: ivorj99 - $4,600
Seat 4: Erik50 - $415
Seat 5: bandukwala - $1,985
Seat 6: iamtoots - $5,095
Seat 8: gpj77 - $1,000
Seat 10: hipsterbeebop - $1,905
Moving Button to seat 4
bandukwala posts small blind ($100)
iamtoots posts big blind ($200)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Ah 3h] to gpj77
gpj77 raises to $1,000 (all-in)
hipsterbeebop did not respond in time and is folded
hipsterbeebop folds
ivorj99 folds
Erik50 folds
bandukwala folds
iamtoots calls $1,000
iamtoots shows [Ks 7s]
gpj77 shows [Ah 3h]
Dealing Flop [5d 3d 5c]
Dealing Turn [Qc]
Dealing River [Kh]
gpj77 has Two Pairs: 5s, 3s
iamtoots has Two Pairs: Kings, 5s
iamtoots wins $2,100 with: Two Pairs: Kings, 5s
gpj77 can't believe it.
Seat 1: ivorj99 - $4,600
Seat 4: Erik50 - $415
Seat 5: bandukwala - $1,885
Seat 6: iamtoots - $6,195
Seat 8: gpj77 - $0
Seat 10: hipsterbeebop - $1,905
iamtoots says congratulations.
End Of Hand #1005343609

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Posted: 31-Oct-2009 22:05 by KucingGarong

When I get AA or KK in a tourney I have started to look at the lobby to see what position I am going to go out in

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Posted: 03-Nov-2009 09:46 by Kymbolie

I had ace rag in big blind ......when the chip leader does his usual min raise..... that you just HAVE to call when at final table. I get the NUT FLUSH draw on flop and NO PAIR on the board to concern myself with. Raiser bets double the blind. SO EASY to call. Doesn't effect my stack much. I get the Nut Flush.YIPEE....... He bets all in, after turn. I call his all in and as you have already guessed he pairs the board on the river. He does NOT have any flush draw and bets all in without a full house,with only the remote possibility of pairing the board KNOWING I MUST HAVE THE FLUSH.
He's a smart player and that was out of character from watching him play for an hour. How did he know he would pair the board and why did he not try to bet me out before I got the flush??????

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Posted: 03-Nov-2009 10:01 by Kymbolie

furthermore....... (still on slight tilt) I played for hours........... finished 4th out of 615,,,,,,,, suffering a bad beat, and feeling let down, with only enough prize money to enter a 25c lottery.
Imagine how I'd feel if I had paid real money to get done like that.

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Posted: 03-Nov-2009 10:23 by Robbieweeza

I had ace rag in big blind ......when the chip leader does his usual min raise..... that you just HAVE to call when at final table. I get the NUT FLUSH draw on flop and NO PAIR on the board to concern myself with. Raiser bets double the blind. SO EASY to call. Doesn't effect my stack much. I get the Nut Flush.YIPEE....... He bets all in, after turn. I call his all in and as you have already guessed he pairs the board on the river. He does NOT have any flush draw and bets all in without a full house,with only the remote possibility of pairing the board KNOWING I MUST HAVE THE FLUSH.
He's a smart player and that was out of character from watching him play for an hour. How did he know he would pair the board and why did he not try to bet me out before I got the flush??????

Kymbolie, 03/11/2009

This is quality.

finished 4th out of 615
Imagine how I'd feel if I had paid real money to get done like that.

umm... really happy?

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Posted: 03-Nov-2009 13:03 by MeneGeneOkerland

furthermore....... (still on slight tilt) I played for hours........... finished 4th out of 615,,,,,,,, suffering a bad beat, and feeling let down, with only enough prize money to enter a 25c lottery.
Imagine how I'd feel if I had paid real money to get done like that.

Kymbolie, 03/11/2009

Is this post serious you played for hours and won <25c

If you played for real money and came 4th your payout would be far greater.

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Posted: 03-Nov-2009 21:51 by Kymbolie

2 pair on the flop is very hard to protect. Even if your're chip leader. Short stack always calls. Players think you're being a bully or playing position and call to spite you. If the table knows you and how you play they'll respect your big raise after the flop, but if new players are coming in all the time or you get moved to a new crew then you can be outdrawn so easily.

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Posted: 03-Nov-2009 22:15 by Kymbolie

Dirty..........
no friends in poker......

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Posted: 04-Nov-2009 00:20 by Cemyles

Back to the original topic.....i do see this happen a lot here but then again i suppose the big stacks can afford to gamble and call with poop hands and its just luck they hit.....

or something

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Posted: 04-Nov-2009 08:37 by BenW77

It's not just big stacks it's not letting go of a hand I called a guy last night, hit two pair on the flop, he raised big so i pushed he called. He turned over Ac Jh, nothing at all on the board and by the time the river came he had a backdoor flush with his Jh! This was for a maximum buyin that he called me with, I couldn't believe it two overcards and he called lol.

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Posted: 04-Nov-2009 08:52 by Robbieweeza

The real question is ....... WILL i ever play for any large amount of money if that senario is the most probable outcome?

Kymbolie, 03/11/2009

I don't get it. You still think it's a bad thing to place 4th in a 615 runner tournament? Ever taken a good look at the payout structure for one of these babies?

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Posted: 05-Nov-2009 04:18 by Cemyles

Hey wait a minute !!!!!!!!

LOL

Table #21605195 - Tournament #13197574 Table #7
Starting Hand #1035303601
Start time of hand: 05 Nov 2009 04:09:12
Last Hand #1035303032
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: TOURNAMENT
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now $1,250/$2,500
Button is at seat 7
Seat 1: jeffrey111 - $42,168
Seat 2: ernesto482 - $56,073
Seat 3: MagicBlackKnight - $46,873
Seat 4: senseless1 - $36,120
Seat 5: Cemyles - $21,108
Seat 7: TheSciAmAn - $78,184
Seat 9: tachyonist - $32,835
Seat 10: SUPERACEMIKEY - $60,139
Moving Button to seat 9
jeffrey111 posts ante of $250
ernesto482 posts ante of $250
MagicBlackKnight posts ante of $250
senseless1 posts ante of $250
Cemyles posts ante of $250
TheSciAmAn posts ante of $250
tachyonist posts ante of $250
SUPERACEMIKEY posts ante of $250
SUPERACEMIKEY posts small blind ($1,250)
jeffrey111 posts big blind ($2,500)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Cemyles cheers.
Dealing [As Kc] to Cemyles
ernesto482 calls $2,500
MagicBlackKnight folds
senseless1 calls $2,500
Cemyles raises to $20,858 (all-in)
TheSciAmAn folds
SUPERACEMIKEY: nearly bk on my throwne there lol
tachyonist folds
Cemyles: lol
SUPERACEMIKEY can't believe himself.
SUPERACEMIKEY folds
jeffrey111 folds
ernesto482 calls $20,858
senseless1 folds
ernesto482 shows [Js Qh]
Cemyles shows [As Kc]
Dealing Flop [Qs Qd Qc]
Dealing Turn [5h]
ernesto482 can't believe it.
MagicBlackKnight says well played, Cemyles.
Dealing River [9h]
Cemyles has Three of a Kind: Queens
ernesto482 has Four of a kind: Queens
SUPERACEMIKEY reckons that's a shame, Cemyles.
ernesto482 wins $49,966 with: Four of a kind: Queens
Cemyles can't believe it.
Seat 1: jeffrey111 - $39,418
Seat 2: ernesto482 - $84,931
Seat 3: MagicBlackKnight - $46,623
Seat 4: senseless1 - $33,370
Seat 5: Cemyles - $0
Seat 7: TheSciAmAn - $77,934
Seat 9: tachyonist - $32,585
Seat 10: SUPERACEMIKEY - $58,639
TheSciAmAn laughs out loud.
SUPERACEMIKEY apologises to Cemyles.
End Of Hand #1035303601

/think

lol

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Posted: 05-Nov-2009 06:50 by Kymbolie

Cemyles, hard to believe you were drawing dead after the flop, with ace king

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Posted: 05-Nov-2009 14:47 by Cemyles

Cemyles, hard to believe you were drawing dead after the flop, with ace king

Kymbolie, 05/11/2009

Yeah i was short stacked at the final table, pushed all in preflop in which i though was a good spot with AK, got called from the bb with QJ, flop QQQ.

He flopped the nuts but i think i made the right move pushing preflop considering the situation. Even though im not a big fan of big slick.

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Posted: 05-Nov-2009 14:56 by Robbieweeza

AK drawing dead? That's unpossible.

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 22:55 by Kymbolie

LilleMille1
how could you call my all, in with pockets smaller than my two pair on the flop, and draw a gut shot straight....