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Anyone getting away from this, or standard cooler?

5 posts 06 Nov 2009 23:21

Edited on 06 Nov 2009 23:28 by RokafellaGio

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My exit hand from tonight's $150 Primetime # 5

Would anyone even think for a second they could be behind here? Any thoughts on my line here would be greatly appreciated.

Table #21656436 - Tournament #13211563 Table #7
Starting Hand #1037607063
Start time of hand: 06 Nov 2009 23:00:24
Last Hand #1037604088
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: TOURNAMENT
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now $500/$1,000
Button is at seat 7
Seat 1: Fouinasse13 - $20,358
Seat 2: manybingo - $11,114
Seat 4: Donkai - $19,033
Seat 5: sumoface7 - $40,413
Seat 6: mikazen200981 - $23,608
Seat 7: vladan - $32,624
Seat 8: Lamurgence - $18,375
Seat 9: RokafellaGio - $33,066
Seat 10: Rivertoto - $27,609
Moving Button to seat 8
Fouinasse13 posts ante of $100
manybingo posts ante of $100
Donkai posts ante of $100
sumoface7 posts ante of $100
mikazen200981 posts ante of $100
vladan posts ante of $100
Lamurgence posts ante of $100
RokafellaGio posts ante of $100
Rivertoto posts ante of $100
RokafellaGio posts small blind ($500)
Rivertoto posts big blind ($1,000)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Ts 9s] to RokafellaGio
Fouinasse13 folds
manybingo folds
Donkai folds
sumoface7 raises to $3,000
mikazen200981 folds
vladan folds
Lamurgence folds
RokafellaGio calls $3,000
Rivertoto folds
Dealing Flop [2h 9h 9c]
RokafellaGio checks
sumoface7 bets $4,000
RokafellaGio calls $4,000 <-------------------------trip to value town
Dealing Turn [Jd]
RokafellaGio checks
sumoface7 bets $8,000
RokafellaGio raises to $16,000<----------------------time to jam
sumoface7 raises to $33,313 (all-in) <-----Happy days, right?
RokafellaGio calls $25,966 (all-in)
Returning $7,347 to sumoface7 uncalled
sumoface7 shows [Kh 9d] <-----------------------F***************k
RokafellaGio shows [Ts 9s]
Dealing River [Qh] <--------------------------/cry
sumoface7 has Three of a Kind: 9s
sumoface7 wins $67,832 with: Three of a Kind: 9s
Seat 1: Fouinasse13 - $20,258
Seat 2: manybingo - $11,014
Seat 4: Donkai - $18,933
Seat 5: sumoface7 - $75,179
Seat 6: mikazen200981 - $23,508
Seat 7: vladan - $32,524
Seat 8: Lamurgence - $18,275
Seat 9: RokafellaGio - $0
Seat 10: Rivertoto - $26,509
End Of Hand #1037607063

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Edited on 06 Nov 2009 23:54 by satfat

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 23:53 by satfat

no way u can ever get away once u see the flop.

im not a fan of ur line tho , sorry. preflop ur not deep enough imo to peel one off OOP. if villain seems solid this a a great 3 bet opportunity preflop. ir so easily dominated by the hands hed usually fold to a 3 bet and likely live to the ones he calls. altho thts not the point, ur reppin a big pair/AK.

on the turn ur check minraise is such a strong move tht if he has what hes repped(overpair) anyone with half a brain can fold. if u dont jam flop u shud smooth and open jam river to leave shadow of doubt over u having a 9 or not(or mebbe KK/AA). ur never bluffing here is wot im getting at. minimal opportunity to get payed by a worse hand

not tryin to be preachy tonight but if u ask im happy to oblige an opinion. as always disagree if u like but give reasons.

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Posted: 07-Nov-2009 00:12 by RokafellaGio

Opinions are always welcome. If you ask the question you have to accept the response

My thinking when flatting his raise (although oop) was that the BB has been super nitty and folding to nearly any raise from any player in any position.My range for sumo was mid PP upwards or AJ/AQ/AK and possibly KQ/KJ. So with a dry flop, or a connected flop for me it would give me the chance to check raise as he is certainly likely to cbet a wide range of flops a high percentage of times.

I like the line of the 3 bet pre but was worried about having to fold without seeing a flop if he came over the top. In your opinion was this thinking a little too passive?

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Edited on 07 Nov 2009 00:24 by satfat

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Posted: 07-Nov-2009 00:23 by satfat

its too aggressive imo! this is a nice line to take when deep but the checkraise on a flop unlikely to improve villain wud commit over half ur stack on 10 high with only a 4/5bb or so gain over 3 bet pre and he folds. one fails u have 24/25 BBs left, other fails you have 15/16. ths nearly 10BBs diff for a 4/5BB gain in equity.

im assuming this guy has opened a lot when given the opportunity? if hes bin super rock then all academic obv.

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Posted: 07-Nov-2009 00:44 by RokafellaGio

Valid point.

He had not been super aggro by any means, but also was not afraid to open in position.

I would imagine, looking back, that our images of each other were not to dissimilar as we had both taken down a few pots without the other players putting up too much of a fight.

The 3 bet pre makes perfect sense with hindsight, especially as he was definitely solid enough to lay down K9s to a raise pre.........thanks for the response anything constructive is always welcome! especially if its anything above level 1 thinking!