Big decisions in level 1

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 19:55 by z4oslo

tough one.
i know what i would do, i would shove on flop, but im greedy! :D

i think its 50/50 for me if i would call his last bet.

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 20:07 by ForFoxSake

I would prefer a reraise on the flop, in the open you will often see calls with a fair few hands you have crushed, KQ, QJ maybe mid pairs too.

I am more inclined to call here as played my gut says something like 9s and he sees the A as a scare card and shoves....hard to know in level 1 of the open, but its worth a risk here IMO to try and get a stack.

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 21:02 by arron77

As it's the open i'd of spewtard min re raised his raise on the flop. Thus the turn I wouldn't give a toss about any bet and call - only in the open.

Interesting, it does stink of "I don't have the A really".

I like the commentary you put down on it though. I'm gonna say though he flips over his flush draw-come top pair

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Posted: 07-Nov-2009 07:04 by Greenstein

Big decision for sure, but what kinda tournament was this? SnG? Buy-in?

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Posted: 07-Nov-2009 10:13 by RusToffee

He was slow-playing his pocket rockets or he was probably holding... KK

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Posted: 07-Nov-2009 16:08 by jdnorway

Just for completeness, I was right, but it didn't matter:

jdnorway calls $1,730
jdnorway shows [Kd Kc]
Hak215 shows [Qh Th]
Dealing River [Qs]

I hate to have such a big decision to make early on, but if he had raised to 80 preflop, I would've been much more likely to believe he had AQ - but of course then I also would've shoved the flop, so it wouldn't have changed much.

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Posted: 08-Nov-2009 03:09 by D1am0ndDave

Hi Coach,

I would have thought the same as you, as in the pocket 2's or 3's. So early into the tourney i probably would have laid it down, if i was thinking straight!

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Posted: 08-Nov-2009 07:56 by RusToffee

Your play was correct, just unlucky really. And I can see why he raised you, he had a top pair and for many (poor ) players a top pair is a way to go. It's hard to lay down KK in this situation.

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Posted: 08-Nov-2009 12:00 by IneedUrChips

jdnorway calls $640 <------- Reraising all in here accomplishes nothing imo. I get rid of hands I'm dominating, but the only two hands I really fear (22 and 33) will call.
Dealing Turn [Ac] <------ You always hate seeing an ace with KK, but I can't really put him on AQ after the limp pre or A2 or A3 after the reraise on the flop.


Reread this for a couple of times, and see the flaw.

gl

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Posted: 08-Nov-2009 12:54 by jdnorway

Reread it. Nope, I don't see it.

I can't see him limping AQ pre from the button.

I can't see him reraising A2 or A3.

Hence, after the flop, the only turn I'm genuinely worried about is another Q.

I'm worried about 22 or 33, not about QQ

The three ace high hands I'm talking about there are not among the hands I'm dominating I mention in the first comment.

Why not make a contributing comment instead of just a snarky, sarcastic "you're an idiot and you figure out why for yourself"?