could i play this any differently?

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 18:14 by deeno01

its a race but a good call just bad luck.

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 18:21 by PirateNation

i think i can fold on the turn when the3rd ten come

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 18:39 by Rozzie

Lol, ul

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 18:43 by ForFoxSake

i think i can fold on the turn when the3rd ten come

PirateNation, 06/11/2009

I dont think you can fold the turn here, its clearly a coin toss...either he hits a one outer for quads or you do.

Just ul that the river was the 10 not the 6...

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 18:44 by PirateNation

i was joking its all in preflop

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 18:51 by satfat

not sure y ud call at all unless guy was an absolute spewtard and had bin pushing 82off everyhand while BB had been folding JJ to limpers

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 20:09 by ForFoxSake

i was joking its all in preflop

PirateNation, 06/11/2009

Yes hence my sarcastic 1 outer response....

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 20:53 by arron77

2850ish to call to win 6550ish.

Out of interest satfat what are the reasons for the fold? Cut off with 10xBB, the range is very wide including underpairs and A2 etc...

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 20:54 by ForFoxSake

Its not 2850 to win 6550 as PN has to put 2850 of the 6550 in....

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 22:01 by PirateNation

was a final table of a mtt. not really folding here despite the poor odds

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Posted: 06-Nov-2009 23:27 by satfat

2850ish to call to win 6550ish.

Out of interest satfat what are the reasons for the fold? Cut off with 10xBB, the range is very wide including underpairs and A2 etc...


arron77, 06/11/2009

im not saying its bad or nuthin i just dont see any value. in my limited experience of mtts on pkr pples shove range on10bbs is way tighter thn anywhere else(with a few exceptions obv). so ur always flipping or 80% dog mostly, plus the BB is pretty short and av pkr plyr will most likely play a much wider range than they shud often putting u in the nightmare spot of 3 way all in with lo pair having to hit a set or some miracle flop. too much risk without any real reward apart from winning the flip the times it is and the bb folds. instacall from bb but not from sb imo. affordable but spewy

if u disagree id like to know y. new persectives are always welcome

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Posted: 07-Nov-2009 11:39 by Chivalrousgent

Could do it either way tbh. I'm not a huge fan of the calling, but that's mainly because you're unlikely to be more than 55% and I think you have a better chance of picking up a few more BB to swell your stack by being the one to open. Also, UTG shippage whiffs a bit against standard players ... usually 66+ or 2 paint so any equity edge you have is going to be rare and small.

Wait for better spots IMHO. But with 10BB stacks, it's hard to ever play massively badly ...

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Posted: 07-Nov-2009 11:40 by EatMyDust

I think im in the minority here, but IMHO, I would have laid the 6's pre, no race no risk...........maybe thats why you win more than i do!!! v ul.....

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Posted: 07-Nov-2009 14:25 by arron77

It's hard to say why i'm more in favour of the call, but I guess i'd look at as a chance to build my stack, even after it he's still 4th in the chip count.

It's a very marginal decision, and tbh I guess it'd be more down to how the rest of the table plays. i.e if I think it would be hard to build a stack, i'd take the chance of flipping for a small proportion of mine etc

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Posted: 09-Nov-2009 10:22 by PirateNation

i love to flip

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Posted: 10-Nov-2009 12:02 by wulfy

i deffo fold here.

no odds, highly unlikely to be dominating, easily dominated, risking +25% of your stack, this was a shove from UTG (don't know who said cutoff, but wrong), bb yet to act... blah blah blah... just fold.

might sound like im promoting nitty play, but there's 3000 chips that you're investing hoping not to be dominated, and to win the flip. i'd personally rather keep 3k's worth of fold/fear equity and take more opportunities to be aggro.

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Posted: 10-Nov-2009 18:59 by mickeypockets

easy fold

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Posted: 13-Nov-2009 04:37 by jjoel87

Yeh even though this guys stack is uba low, and so his range is deemed to maybe be weaker, i cannot see how 66 is a viable call.

At best ur flipping (slightly ahead) and with only expending 150 into the pot why take the chance to lose 3k? This call just seems pointless, im sure there are much more reliable situations u could have attained 3k to ur stack throughout the tourney...

Insta FOLD!!!

Still pretty unlucky the way it concluded lol.