how to be avoid beeing donked.

By z4oslo

9 posts 04 Nov 2009 18:18

Edited on 04 Nov 2009 18:26 by z4oslo

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So i was in this tournament, quite early i get aj late posiiton, standard raise and i get 2 callers.

flop comes dry with j on top, first position bet 160, i raised to 470, she pushed all in, i call.

Reason i rr and called was that i wasnt afraid of a set or pp2, cause i didnt belive she would leaad out with such a strong hand from first postion (though it happens)

Sure enough she flip over jk, and k comes on river.

This happens quite alot, and usually means an early exit or close to or in the final table.

Question is, is it better to let it go and wait for a better chance, or stick to your gut and reads, and hope you dont get donked?

here is the hand btw

d posts small blind ($10)
c posts big blind ($20)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Jc As] to z4oslo
a folds
b folds
z4oslo raises to $80
e folds
c calls $80
d folds
Dealing Flop [3d Js 8s]
c bets $160
z4oslo raises to $480
c raises to $1,120
z4oslo raises to $2,190 (all-in)
c calls $2,040 (all-in)
Returning $150 to z4oslo uncalled
c shows [Ks Jh]
z4oslo shows [Jc As]
Dealing Turn [8h]
Dealing River [Kh]
z4oslo has Two Pairs: Jacks, 8s
c has Two Pairs: Kings, Jacks
c wins $4,260 with: Two Pairs: Kings, Jacks
Seat 1: c - $4,260
Seat 2: a - $2,510
Seat 3: b - $2,570
Seat 4: c - $3,040
Seat 5: z4oslo - $150
Seat 6: e - $2,470
End Of Hand #1034536796


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kingcallum

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worst robbing poker site ive seen, so many bad beats

z4oslo

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well bad beats happen, and sometimes im the one doing it,
so what im wondering, is to stick to your gut, or avoid situations like that, and just fold, or keep it real small?

i can also say that i never have any luck slow playing. usually it ends in a disaster :D

jdnorway

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Well, don't try to avoid getting in situations where your opponent is drawing to 2 or 3 outs, that's for sure.

Unlucky, just stay with it. Variance sucks.

PirateNation

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this is just really ul. you should not change your play. in the long term you will win with this move.
and Kingcallum, obviously you have been to a few of my tables and if you feel that you are being robbed I strongly advise you go elswhere. I can somewhat see where you are coming from as you have been on a few losing hands to me recently. usually when you are behind though!

ezoteric

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Answer to your question is easy:

You are never donked if you always get your money in with the worst hand.

JuniorMontana01

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OMG - happens
Play more

JuniorMontana01

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worst robbing poker site ive seen, so many bad beats

kingcallum, 04/11/2009

Honestly, you're an idiot.
You should play more and read more about poker because it's clear that you have no idea about it. * thumbsup*

z4oslo

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Thanks for the input.

Gonna show a couple of hands from the 10k open yetsterday, and possibly get some opinions :D

First hand was cracy :
Table #21622414 - Tournament #13211564 Table #19
Starting Hand #1035923361
Start time of hand: 05 Nov 2009 19:01:33
Last Hand #1035919750
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: TOURNAMENT
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now $10/$20
Button is at seat 6
Seat 1: z4oslo - $2,500
Seat 2: fkhy7 - $2,710
Seat 3: blagamata - $2,480
Seat 4: CHARLYCBS - $2,500
Seat 5: lena13 - $2,340
Seat 6: blanack - $2,490
Seat 7: kinapuffen - $2,340
Seat 8: looksalive - $3,100
Seat 9: viva122 - $2,040
Seat 10: Jotte70 - $2,500
Moving Button to seat 7
looksalive posts small blind ($10)
viva122 posts big blind ($20)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [8d 8s] to z4oslo
Jotte70 folds
z4oslo raises to $60
fkhy7 calls $60
blagamata folds
CHARLYCBS calls $60
lena13 calls $60
blanack folds
kinapuffen did not respond in time and is folded
kinapuffen folds
looksalive calls $60
viva122 calls $60
Dealing Flop [Jc 8c Qd]
looksalive checks
viva122 checks
z4oslo bets $400
fkhy7 calls $400
CHARLYCBS calls $400
lena13 calls $400
looksalive folds
viva122 folds
Dealing Turn [As]
z4oslo checks
fkhy7 bets $450
CHARLYCBS calls $450
lena13 calls $450
z4oslo calls $450
Dealing River [3h]
z4oslo bets $1,590 (all-in)
fkhy7 raises to $1,800 (all-in)
viva122 says congratulations.
CHARLYCBS is thinking.
CHARLYCBS has requested more time
CHARLYCBS is using the time bank
z4oslo: hate this hand
CHARLYCBS has 83 seconds remaining in the time bank
CHARLYCBS folds
lena13 folds
Returning $210 to fkhy7 uncalled
z4oslo shows [8d 8s]
fkhy7 shows [Ac 3c]
fkhy7 has Two Pairs: Aces, 3s
z4oslo has Three of a Kind: 8s
z4oslo wins $6,940 with: Three of a Kind: 8s
Seat 1: z4oslo - $6,940
Seat 2: fkhy7 - $210
Seat 3: blagamata - $2,480
Seat 4: CHARLYCBS - $1,590
Seat 5: lena13 - $1,430
Seat 6: blanack - $2,490
Seat 7: kinapuffen - $2,340
Seat 8: looksalive - $3,040
Seat 9: viva122 - $1,980
Seat 10: Jotte70 - $2,500
End Of Hand #1035923361

Obiously the flop was good AND scary for me. I was first to act, so made a pot sized bet of 400, which is alot at that stage of the tournament.

Not only did i get one caller, i got THREE!
Turn made another possible straight draw, so i checked and called the bet.
River was blank so i thought fuck it, the pot is so big ill just go for it and hope no one had the straight.
Got one caller, and i took down this huge pot.

The next one, i got alot of abuse for.

Take a look:
Moving Button to seat 6
MrMetzger posts small blind ($50)
z4oslo posts big blind ($100)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Jh Tc] to z4oslo
pigornot did not respond in time and is folded
pigornot folds
PicsByMax raises to $200
PIKKIE1812 folds
incognito13 raises to $400
Trymean77 folds
legrande folds
coquelles62 folds
fonzy1225 has become disconnected and has 10 seconds to reconnect
fonzy1225 did not respond in time and is folded
fonzy1225 folds
MrMetzger folds
z4oslo calls $400
PicsByMax calls $400
Dealing Flop [4h Kd Td]
z4oslo checks
PicsByMax bets $400
incognito13 calls $400
z4oslo calls $400
Dealing Turn [5d]
z4oslo checks
PicsByMax bets $800
incognito13 folds
z4oslo raises to $2,400
PicsByMax calls $2,400
Dealing River [Th]
z4oslo bets $2,000
PicsByMax calls $2,000
z4oslo shows [Jh Tc]
z4oslo has Three of a Kind: 10s
PicsByMax mucks
z4oslo wins $11,250 with: Three of a Kind: 10s
Seat 1: PIKKIE1812 - $2,860
Seat 2: incognito13 - $6,390
Seat 3: Trymean77 - $2,110
Seat 4: legrande - $2,700
Seat 5: coquelles62 - $5,470
Seat 6: fonzy1225 - $4,950
Seat 7: MrMetzger - $1,450
Seat 8: z4oslo - $18,930
Seat 9: pigornot - $10,015
Seat 10: PicsByMax - $2,990
End Of Hand #1035990493

Sure i was creative on that one, but decided on flop that this is a setup where i can try to bluff, and steal the pot if i miss.
When the diamond showed up on turn, i decided to bet on my imaginary flush and rr out of position, and i got lucky on the river with another 10.

i had to take alot of abuse on that one, but at least in my mind, i just played the board, and in most cases the player would have folded on my rr.

I didnt think he had the flush since with his bet on turn he bet twice the amount that he did on the flop, he would keep it small, or even check it to keep me in the pot, so i felt confident that i could take it down right there.

So, any opinions, right wrong, stupid etc?

PirateNation

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again you played this well. cant see anything wrng with this move at all

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