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muel294 222 posts Blue Whale

Posted: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:01 by muel294

Edited: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:07 by muel294

Hi All

Last night in a local 40 player pub poker tournement. Top 3 paid. I make the final table with about 15.5K in chips and the blinds immeadiately raise to 1K/2 K, leaving me with 7BB.

We are 8 handed and one Strong LAG player has about 70% of the chips in play. The rest of us seem to have no more than 10 - 15BB. So i figure I need to double up quickly or go home, rather than trying to scrape into the money.

I pick up KQo/s UTG and make it 6K to g, leaving me with 9.5K behind. All fold to the LAG chip leader in MP who tanks and raises to 12K.

All fold to the BB who shoves for 10.5K. So i'm now getting 6-1 on a call, which is effectively putting me all in, this is probably a must call in any case, but I know the LAG player could be doing this quite wide but the BB i know to be quite tight and only play "good cards" regardless of position or situation. So I expect to be behind to the BB but hopefully not dominated.

I move all infor 15.5 K total and the LAG player calls.

hero: KdQs
LAG: AsTc
BB: AhJd

Anyway I spiked a Q on the turn which held up and I took the pot. Good times.

Question is:

Should I just be folding KQ UTG with so many players to act behind me, AT THIS STAGE?

I would tend to fold this UTG in the early stages of the tournement, but I felt that in my experience the table tightens up at the high blind stages and it is normally a good time to aggressively accumulate some chips and exploit high blind passivity.

Is the 2BB raise bad, should I just be open shoving if playing this hand since I have 7BB and am effectively pot committing myself from the flop?

Thoughts please boys and girls.

Thanks
#2
IneedUrChips 4636 posts Box Jellyfish

Posted: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:40 by IneedUrChips

ur at push/fold stage, jam or fold imo.
#3

Posted: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:34 by Tonybhoy1888

muel is this the lppl were talking here? If so then being an experienced lppl player id just push. in these games u'll normally get called by 33 or A rag or something and be 50-50. just need to hope u hit.
#4

Posted: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:37 by PirateNation

if top 3 are paid. you need to double up KQ is a good enough hand to do it with against most peopls calling range eg. medium pairs A-x. shove!!
#5
whiskymac 6974 posts Bull Shark

Posted: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:38 by whiskymac

ur at push/fold stage, jam or fold imo.

IneedUrChips, 03/11/2009

Thats your only 2 choices and unless you are playing to move up a spot or two, rather than go for 1st or 2nd, then a shove is your only option here imo.
#6

Posted: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:09 by discomonkey

yup, shovity shove imo
#7
muel294 222 posts Blue Whale

Posted: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:22 by muel294

Yeah thats what i thought after. 2BB raise was a bit gay. Got a " how can u raise that UTG" which left me scratching my head and thinking wtf?!

Thanks guys
#8
satfat 1700 posts Swordfish

Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:24 by satfat

arrrriiiiiinnnnnnn.
#9
SharkTony 463 posts Pufferfish

Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:58 by SharkTony

no point hanging around, chips had to go in the middle
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