Standard Shippage?

Table #21940000 - Tournament #13277220 Table #39
Starting Hand #1050091811
Start time of hand: 15 Nov 2009 19:36:45
Last Hand #1050090658
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: TOURNAMENT
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now $600/$1,200
Button is at seat 3
Seat 1: XxxfunkyboyxxX - $16,725
Seat 2: Akim2009 - $7,585
Seat 3: bardey - $29,717
Seat 4: rama1972 - $9,515
Seat 5: Chivalrousgent - $24,537
Seat 6: whiskymac - $35,371
Seat 7: rdino - $9,083
Seat 9: Saigneur11 - $9,327
Seat 10: Galwaysontilt22 - $4,215
Moving Button to seat 4
XxxfunkyboyxxX posts ante of $150
Akim2009 posts ante of $150
bardey posts ante of $150
rama1972 posts ante of $150
Chivalrousgent posts ante of $150
whiskymac posts ante of $150
rdino posts ante of $150
Saigneur11 posts ante of $150
Galwaysontilt22 posts ante of $150
whiskymac gives the thumbs up.
Chivalrousgent posts small blind ($600)
whiskymac posts big blind ($1,200)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Akim2009 claps.
XxxfunkyboyxxX gives the thumbs up.
Dealing to Chivalrousgent
krisskross76: Mega Speed zum Freitags Prime time
Chivalrousgent: my 93o was gonna hit, didn't want to skank you mate
rdino folds
whiskymac chuckles.
Saigneur11 folds
whiskymac says thank you.
krisskross76: 8 tickets 9 leute noch
XxxfunkyboyxxX: wow
XxxfunkyboyxxX: gl
Saigneur11: -_-
Galwaysontilt22 folds
Saigneur11 cheers at XxxfunkyboyxxX.
Chivalrousgent says no problem to whiskymac.
XxxfunkyboyxxX folds
XxxfunkyboyxxX says thank you, Saigneur11.
krisskross76: der Chipleader geht all inn
Akim2009 folds
krisskross76: mit J3
XxxfunkyboyxxX: lool
Saigneur11 hopes he gets lucky.
bardey folds
rama1972 calls $1,200
Chivalrousgent: tozmiou?
krisskross76: der 2. vom Board caltt
Chivalrousgent raises to $24,387 (all-in)
whiskymac raises to $35,221 (all-in)
XxxfunkyboyxxX says good luck to Chivalrousgent.
krisskross76: AA
Chivalrousgent: yeah he plays pretty crazy sometimes
rama1972 says no thanks.
Saigneur11 cheers.
rama1972 folds
Returning $10,834 to whiskymac uncalled
Chivalrousgent shows
whiskymac shows
Dealing Flop
krisskross76: the Flop
Dealing Turn
XxxfunkyboyxxX: wow
Dealing River
XxxfunkyboyxxX: wow
krisskross76: jss
whiskymac has Three of a Kind: Jacks
XxxfunkyboyxxX: wow
Chivalrousgent has Flush, Ace high
XxxfunkyboyxxX: wow
Chivalrousgent wins $51,324 with: Flush, Ace high
krisskross76: j33
Seat 1: XxxfunkyboyxxX - $16,575
Seat 2: Akim2009 - $7,435
Seat 3: bardey - $29,567
Seat 4: rama1972 - $8,165
Seat 5: Chivalrousgent - $51,324
Seat 6: whiskymac - $10,834
Seat 7: rdino - $8,933
Seat 9: Saigneur11 - $9,177
Seat 10: Galwaysontilt22 - $4,065
XxxfunkyboyxxX: wow
Galwaysontilt22: wooooww
Chivalrousgent: sick, ul man
End Of Hand #1050091811

Given ICM you have to shove this:

53.2%, 22+ Ax+ K2s+ K3o+ Q2s+ Q8o+ J4s+ J8o+ T6s+ T8o+ 95s+ 98o 85s+ 87o 74s+ 64s+ 53s+

Seems standard for chiv...A3 is the nuts.

Table #21940000 - Tournament #13277220 Table #39
Starting Hand #1050208898
Start time of hand: 15 Nov 2009 20:45:50
Last Hand #1050207807
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: TOURNAMENT
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now $2,000/$4,000
Button is at seat 1
Seat 1: XxxfunkyboyxxX - $85,088
Seat 3: boylee - $34,309
Seat 5: Chivalrousgent - $67,893
Seat 6: whiskymac - $27,576
Seat 7: mugg78 - $88,332
Seat 8: Dukes79 - $89,374
Moving Button to seat 3
XxxfunkyboyxxX posts ante of $400
boylee posts ante of $400
Chivalrousgent posts ante of $400
whiskymac posts ante of $400
mugg78 posts ante of $400
Dukes79 posts ante of $400
Chivalrousgent posts small blind ($2,000)
whiskymac posts big blind ($4,000)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing to whiskymac
krisskross76: scheiss auf 55 ich will alles!!! lol
mugg78 folds
XxxfunkyboyxxX: lool
Dukes79 folds
XxxfunkyboyxxX calls $4,000
boylee folds
Chivalrousgent raises to $67,493 (all-in)
whiskymac calls $27,176 (all-in)
mugg78: gl
XxxfunkyboyxxX can't believe it.
krisskross76: omg
Chivalrousgent says good luck to whiskymac.
XxxfunkyboyxxX folds
Returning $40,317 to Chivalrousgent uncalled
Chivalrousgent shows
whiskymac shows
Dealing Flop
Dealing Turn
XxxfunkyboyxxX cries.
Dealing River
Chivalrousgent has One Pair: 3s
Chivalrousgent wins $60,752 with: One Pair: 3s
mugg78: ouch
Chivalrousgent: sick as
XxxfunkyboyxxX acknowledges a nice hand.
Seat 1: XxxfunkyboyxxX - $80,688
Seat 3: boylee - $33,909
Seat 5: Chivalrousgent - $101,069
Seat 6: whiskymac - $0
Seat 7: mugg78 - $87,932
Seat 8: Dukes79 - $88,974
krisskross76: omg
End Of Hand #1050208898

Whisky posted the HH before I could /boo!

Sorry whisky, you got seriously ul, but these were both standard coolers. There's 21% of my stack value in the middle (in the first example). If you fold ~80% of the time (i.e. you only call top 20% of hands which beat me) of hands then I'm freerolling my hand which is never worse than 70:30.

However, more likely VS you is that you struggle to call 10% of the time, and when you do I still win more or less a third of the time.

The limper is never calling, so in short I'm trying to pick up a 20% stack increase by exposing myself to being beaten about 7% of the time (assuming calling 10% of hands which beat me and a 30:70 rate of win). Easy shove.

In fact, I'm being generous - you'll occasionally contemplate a call here when behind (more +EV for me still), and some of your calling range is sub -30:70.

As for the second one - shoving in to a 7BB stack with Ax suited is so standard I don't think it has to be justified.

Yes you got unlucky. But as far as I can see it's 100% ship all the time.

ps. yeah the second one isnt even a question.