The profitability of playing nice

By Dave Woods


11 comments Friday 14 Aug 2009 09:00

Believe it or not there are two distinct groups of poker players – winners and losers.

 It might be very hard to find anyone who actually admits to being in the latter camp but the statistics say they’re out there. And those very same statistics say that a lot of them carry on playing. It’s what keeps the poker economy afloat, and, if you’re lucky enough, it might even keep you from going to the office and doing a day job.

So why do losing players carry on playing? Either they’re delusional and actually think they’re winning, or they’re enjoying themselves enough that it doesn’t matter. And while either of those facts remains true, the losers will carry on losing, and you will carry on feasting at the table.

It seems pretty obvious, but so many poker players don’t seem to get it. If they see someone playing badly they can’t help pointing it out in the chatbox – or in person if they’re playing live. Have you ever seen Phil Hellmuth’s tirades against the sort of bad players that keep him in gold bracelets and sponsorship deals? And that’s just the tip of what can be a particularly nasty iceberg. Some players are happy to openly abuse dealers and other players, and generally make their table a hostile and uncomfortable place to play. If you’re losing and getting screamed at by the same player who’s taking money off you, the chances are you’re not going to want to come back, lose more money and take more abuse.

It’s not like the good old days

Unfortunately, this sort of behaviour seems to be on the rise. One big online pro, Taylor Caby, has already railed against it in his blog after what he witnessed at this year’s WSOP, and one of the world’s biggest players, Patrik Antonius, has gone on record saying he doesn’t like to be known as a poker player and doesn’t associate with other poker players off the table.

Is this a glorified way of saying ‘don’t tap the aquarium?’ Well yes, but it’s also a plea to bring back a bit of old-school decorum to the game. I cringe when I see people screaming and beating the table when they suck out on Aces. I hate it when I see a player sucking the joy out of someone who’s obviously just started playing the game.

Yes, poker’s an emotional game and every now and again you’re going to let rip – at your laptop or another player – but you should see it as a leak. Keep the bad behaviour for your home games, where everyone knows everyone else, and in the real world, the next time you lose to an idiot – because it will happen – tap the table, say gg, wp, nh, and watch them queue up to play you again. Because the chances are they won’t get so lucky next time.
 


Comments

Thats True Happy

Comment by xXPokerJackXx - 23/09/09 (Report)

My present residence is in Germany, therefore, I was addressed several times as a 'Nazi' (although I am a Dane), then I gave to my Avatar the appearance of an Afro-American (never heard of a black Nazi) and was offended by Portuguese racists because of my skin colour.Isn`t it ironic?These are the shadow sides of the anonymity on the Internet. BUT I`ve also met some very nice people on PKR and had some really good games (although they `re getting rare).

wkr and gl for all serious gamblers "Nils"

Comment by BORNfromPAIN - 22/09/09 (Report)

Edited on: 22 Sep 2009 23:39

I agree a lot to this article. Its really frustrating to play a strong hand, lose on river (on onlinebingopoker you cant sometimes even escape with allin) and the fish calls you a loser or lhao.. Usually I check or make a low bet on riversvck (if I get there on a cheap way) to give the chance to my opponent, to think about it, instead of destroying him with an allin or big bet.But although this ' sportsman ' behavior appears to be silly - for me it`s a question of honour`(Dont wanna be a riverRAT). If my opponent turns out to be an uneducated donk then, however, it is past with my goodness. In my opinion a fish will lose in the long term more than win, and because I have lost very often on the river, I incline at the moment more to limp, before I lose an amount of chips to a fish which cannot be shaken off.
To return on the subject, if some players can behave, here`s my advice to you:
Treat bad words like you would treat bad food - don`t eat them.

Comment by BORNfromPAIN - 22/09/09 (Report)

Edited on: 22 Sep 2009 23:36

Great article Dave! Happy
Thank you for bringing this issue to light

Comment by Juless81 - 13/09/09 (Report)

Great article Dave! Happy
Thank you for bringing this issue to light

Comment by Juless81 - 13/09/09 (Report)

I ve been playin now for 3 months, and i noticed that a lot of players are rude because they want to make their opponents angry, or feeling bad, and hope that they make more mistakes. it doesnt bother me it happens in every sport or competition.
They usually give some information together with their abuse and that can be used against them. they usually loose in the end. Its just plain stupid.
Playing with gents or ladies is just more fun.

Comment by lock67 - 02/09/09 (Report)

Edited on: 02 Sep 2009 17:44

TrueHappy

Comment by Magisa - 16/08/09 (Report)

Thanx dave for this wonderful article.

I must admit 'till a week ago, i did all i could to scary our beloved and HOLLY FISH away, my temper only controlling my actions in case of this good old T.I.L.T.

Well, after 2 days of chat -which is exactly the point of this article- ban and a nice chat with PKR spanish hostess Sonia (tx Sonia -), believe it or not: they are all right! Do not lose your temper, or manners, it ll nourish the aquarium and keep you out-of-pkr-chat-ban-jail -)

Conclusion: u made your point crystal clear, Dave, and if not, i advise PKR players to get the WPT Mag 44 (issue of june), there is a nice article on a nice donkey city called Blackpool... where no fish wants to go anymore because of bad manners. Guess what happens when the only species remaining in the pool are a couple of hungry angry sharks?

Let's prevent PKR from becoming that kind of site.

Also, my sincere apologies to all the fish i might have mistreated in the way, i promise, i won t again

Comment by Blacksad13 - 16/08/09 (Report)

Edited on: 16 Aug 2009 07:36

I rather enjoyed reading this article. I would agree that the 'gentleman's game' of poker has disappeared over the years, and that it's something we should aspire to relive, even when playing online.

However, when I find myself in a situation where I see a fish on the brink of tilting, I'll do whatever I can to push him over the edge, including becoming a rude jerk. Poker is a game for grifters; they look nice, sound nice, play nice, but they'll still take your money.

Comment by Robbieweeza - 15/08/09 (Report)

What an interesting article!

I cant stand rude players, they just make my blood boil. I agree with Dave here that whats the point on shaking the aquarium?

On the other hand, Ive seen lots of bad players do much of the abuse themselves, while the good players have manners.

Ive seen this in many online games... there are those people who are rude to everyone around them and need to make everyone else feel small and stupid around them.. They must be very lonely people and have no clue on how to get their way... smooth, polite way of behaviour will take you further than some barbaric Attila the Hun action...

I like making the abusing players pay the price in the end... play the shark that waits in the waters for the right moment to strike and get them... SWEET..

I rather lose to a smooth slick player than some neanderthal cave goon..

guess why?

Comment by Rawnie - 15/08/09 (Report)

Ive been playing Poker for about 5 years now, live games and on line - You dont see as much abuse offline but it's definately noticeable that the new breed of on line players are often rude, can this be associated with the rise in more aggressive play? I agree that putting people off playing is stupid and shortsighted, so come on peeps be nice.

Comment by RUElvis - 14/08/09 (Report)

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