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Why I don’t want Phil Ivey to win the Main Event

Alun Bowden argues that Phil Ivey winning the WSOP Main Event would be bad for poker

By Alun Bowden on Friday 18 Sep 2009 13:00


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Phil Ivey has millions of dollars, the respect of his peers and a seat at the Main Event final table. The one thing he doesn’t have is a guarantee of winning the World Championship – and that’s a great thing

I’m going to admit something that may make me a pariah in all thinking poker circles. Something I’ve yet to find anyone without a vested interest who agrees with me on. Something so bad I should probably whisper it. Really quietly… I don’t want Phil Ivey to win the 2009 WSOP Main Event.

It’s nothing personal

I’ve met Ivey. I’ve been to his house and shot pool with him. Away from the tables he’s a friendly, witty, surprisingly humble guy. And at the tables I have the utmost respect for him. He’s a destroyer of passive play and arguably the greatest reader of the game alive today. It’s also not because I want a British winner, although I would love to see James Akenhead walk away with the glory. It’s not because he is rich, for make no mistake Ivey is very rich indeed. But he’s earned his money the hard way, and he’s not extravagant with his cash. I remember he had to be begged to be photographed in his old McLaren SLR as he ‘didn’t want kids thinking having expensive things is a measure of success.’ Try getting that kind of thoughtful humility from the Devilfish.

No, Phil Ivey is a great poker player and a good guy. And he fully deserves his place as the number one poker icon in the world. I’d rather one Phil Ivey than a hundred Phil Hellmuths – but none of this makes me want him to win the Main Event. The thing is, poker doesn’t need an icon in the same way tennis or golf does, simply because tournament poker can’t sustain one. There is just too much luck involved.

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Sport needs its icons so there are heroes to cheer for and villains to boo. Poker tournaments don’t. Phil Ivey has already proved he’s great, and winning the world’s largest donkament will just send a false message about skill always triumphing in poker tournaments, when we all know that isn’t true.
Winning the Main Event may cement Ivey’s place as poker’s greatest player, but will it really do anything for the game? Poker’s success was built on the ‘it could be you’ concept. That with a bit of skill and a chunk of luck you could make the final table of poker’s biggest stage. And this year is no exception, with the role of Chris Moneymaker played by Darvin Moon. I hope he makes it to a heads-up showdown against Ivey. I know who I will be cheering for. No offence Phil!
 

 


Comments

I'm rooting for Ivey, and I disagree about poker being based around the "it could be you" concept. That's what the lottery is for! An Ivey win should highlight that, given an even break of the luck stick, skill can see you through.

Plus, we need a pro win soon!

Comment by Modge - 21/09/09 (Report)

Colin - I think Ivey was probably sponsored into the main event by FT so I dont think it cost him a penny!

luvr1 - The guy who said he would throw the bracelet away is a part owner of CardPlayer and has had some issues with the way the WSOP is run which is why he would throw the bracelet away - not just because he wanted the money.

I would like Phil Ivey to win this because it would show that poker is a game of skill albeit with a lot of luck especially in a tournament like the main event with a gazillion runners. However when it comes round I will be rooting for James Aikenhead. As he is a pro I think him winning would accomplish the same thing, he is also British and got incredibly unlucky when heads up last year for a bracelet. For those who havent seen it check it out on you tube

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fRaTnpd9mE

Comment by mockjock - 21/09/09 (Report)

lmao. i never in my 32 years of living ever read anything quiet as stupid and pointless as this. PKr why have you even given this rubbish the time of day. /boo

Comment by stanners77 - 19/09/09 (Report)

I don`t get people disagreeing with you, the point of Mr. Bowden is that poker is getting harder and we need a new `Moneymaker Effect` for it to continue to survive.

Compare the games today to say... 2004 - 2005 , the games have gotten much harder, the fish are gone.

Unless China opens its door to poker (Macau does not count, I am talking about the rest of the country), we foresee no big influx of new players (a.k.a fish) in the near future. And in the end, the game needs these players to continue to thrive.

Great article.

Comment by PatrikCornholius - 19/09/09 (Report)

this article hardly makes sense. Ivey winning would just show that skill is as important if not more in tournament poker too. I think its important non poker players appreciate the game as more about skill than just another casino game about luck.

Comment by BustTheFish - 18/09/09 (Report)

Your argument seems to lack even a slight bit of sense....poker is a game of luck....so are most activities that involve tournament play...football matches can be won or lost on the particular aspect a referee sees an incident from and has to make a game changing decision (luck). Luck keeps it interesting but it should never be the focus.

Why do poker tournaments not need heros and villains? are you envisioning a poker world of mindless drones who see the game as luck and the outcome as random......that would be a disaster for the industry.

Comment by srftime - 18/09/09 (Report)

I knew this one would divide opinion! I actually think it would be great - and I think Ivey really would appreciate the bracelet (if it's just about the money then there are a lot more EV+ ways to invest $10K).

Comment by PKR_Colin - 18/09/09 (Report)

Phil Ivey would prove that although amateurs can win, the people with a better chance are the ones who dedicate themselves to consistently improving.

Comment by luvr7 - 18/09/09 (Report)

Yea and did you read the last issue of Bluff? There's a whole section in there where they rated the November 9 as Good, Bad and Meh for poker's reputation if they win the main event. One guy in the November 9 said he'd throw the bracelet in the trash if he wins cause all he cares about is the cash (Is that good for poker's image? the main contestants dont even give a shit?) . Wouldn't it be nice to have someone win who cares about poker's public image? Dennis Phillips (who got involved in a poker radio show or something) did more for poker after coming 3rd last year than Eastgate did (who bailed on talk shows etc.)

As for "Poker’s success was built on the ‘it could be you’ concept."....it's true...but it's more like "it could be you.....if you put some time in and really learn how the game works and work on improving" Would we really all play if it was just another casino game to gamble on? Probably not. Phil Ivey would prove that although amateurs can win, the people with a better

Comment by luvr7 - 18/09/09 (Report)

Edited on: 18 Sep 2009 16:15

Poker is still not legalised in the Netherlands due to the fact that it is seen as a game based more on luck than skill. So for us Dutchies it would be better for Phil to win this event so there is again more prove that it is a game based more on skill than luck!

Comment by macrobody - 18/09/09 (Report)

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