Clock abuse on the bubble: Using the clock to your advantage (Part 3)

By Phil Shaw


comments Friday 21 Aug 2009 16:45

Knowing when to slow down and when to speed up can have a profound effect on your success around the bubble

We’ve discussed the ethics and practicalities of using the clock to your advantage in parts 1 and 2 of this series, now we’ll put an example under the microscope. While stalling in MTTs is fairly normal and straightforward, manipulating the clock in Sit & Go’s can be much more crucial. Obviously, it only comes into play when you are one of the short stacks and the blinds are so high that you and the other short stacks have close to five big blinds.

For example, you could be in a spot where both you and another short-stacked player have 1,000 chips on the bubble with the blinds at 100/200, and you can stall in the small blind so that the blinds increase to the next level of 150/300. The cumulative increase will have a devastating effect on your opponent since he now has no fold equity and will be pot-committed when the big blind gets to him. This effectively allows you to wait and see if he gets knocked out before you are forced to make a move.

Putting your foot down

This kind of stalling is typical in Sit & Go’s, as it has such a huge effect on the outcome of the game, but there are still situations where you might deviate. For example, in the above situation if you were in the big blind and the opponent with 1,000 was on your direct left, it would be better to stall so that you pay the increased small blind of 150 but he pays the increased big blind of 300, since this does him more damage than you.
Of course you should also be aware of other players who are likely to do this to you and try to outfox them by thinking a few hands or minutes ahead. Always make a note of such players in your notes – it may get confusing but it can become a fascinating strategy subtext to your regular game!

Just remember that stalling can be a controversial subject, so you shouldn’t use it too much, or to the extent that it is obvious and will cause other players to try to do the same back to you more in future. Nevertheless, it still has legitimate and important uses in poker tournaments and Sit & Go’s, so make sure you always keep an eye on your cards, opponents and the clock. It’s just another part of the balancing act that is poker!
 


Comments

Each to their own?!?!

Comment by kevfin - 10/11/09 (Report)

If this tatic becomes popular will have a negative effect, because players who come for fun will stop playing because is booring watching a stall

Comment by LXThrottle - 22/08/09 (Report)

If this tatic becomes popular will have a negative effect, because players who come for fun will stop playing because is booring watching a stall

Comment by LXThrottle - 22/08/09 (Report)

nah ive meant bullying more in the "harrasment" line, not bullying when you are the big stack.

"ethics" beside, it strikes me as unusual finding an article about "ABUSING" the clock in a poker site.

lets be real, we all know stalling happens a lot a MTTs, when short stacks want to survive the bubble without gambling... however it usually serves one purpose: to annoy the hell out of real players, cause as you can expect other short stacks do the same thing at their tables resulting in what? they will be blinded out, cause stalling is not STRATEGY...

ethics aside encouraging people to stall as a "strategy" is what really pisses me off... that can result in a much worse playing experience for regular users who find their time has value

and moss, ethics aside, ettiquette serves the purpose of creating a more enjoyable game... would you like stalling to get popular? any MTT filled with short stack stallers will take you a lot more time than usual thus wasting your time...

Comment by JaneRed - 22/08/09 (Report)

Edited on: 22 Aug 2009 15:16

You want 'ethical' play? In poker? When it is my dollar versus your dollar? Is that a realistic 'ask'? Happy
(btw Im no fan of stalling also, but can understand why it can be a valid tactic)

Comment by mossop234 - 21/08/09 (Report)

Whilst I dont really like the idea of stalling to much it does have its uses in the described situations.

As for the Janered's comment about bullying lol , that is clearly a standard big stack practise and strategy that may not be nice but a poker fact

Comment by RUElvis - 21/08/09 (Report)

Edited on: 21 Aug 2009 17:10

Oh boy... stalling will get you NOWHERE and it is a lack of respect and etiquette... lets say you are in the bubble and there are three tables left... stalling hoping to get past the bubble will prove ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS if someone is stalling in another table...

its really a shame that PKR publishes this articles. its probably better for THEIR bussiness...

and COME ON PEOPLE, if you are any good at poker then your time HAS VALUE, so don´t go wasting it playing like a sorry ass stalling donk

Phil your articles are usually good and interesting but this series... let´s try REAL strategy next time? please? being annoying is not a strategy man. hope few noob donks read this advice as this could became a real problem for real players hoping to get the best of their time... /SHAME

its a disgrace that an article suggesting "ABUSE" gets published... what´s next? HARRASMENT 101? BULLYING SCHOOL? omg

Comment by JaneRed - 21/08/09 (Report)

Edited on: 21 Aug 2009 16:31

Using your Time, in the right way, is also part of playing good poker..
But people who stall in the hole game without any sence really ruin the game..and then its truely unethical..

Unfortunately there so many players who have a lot of unethical spirit, especially in the chats, so that it's just the summary of all making it bad...

I like looking at my cards when its my turn, after taking information from the previous players..so time is running and in the narrow sense also a way of stalling, or am I wrong?!

Comment by FallenMe - 21/08/09 (Report)

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