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To play or not to play? Deceptive hands in Sit and Go’s

Make sure you’re not slipping into bad habits with our guide to some deceptive SNG hands

By Phil Shaw on Friday 5 Feb 2010 11:45


Turn dealt in slow motion

Sit & Go’s can end up feeling a little formulaic at times, but there are still many spots where people make mistakes with deceptive hands. Make sure you’re not one of them

Sit & Go play has developed to the extent that there’s now a very prescriptive – and optimal – way to play them. Because of this, the value has diminished, but thankfully not everyone is playing optimally. There are a number of situations where people are making the wrong decisions, and either playing hole cards they shouldn’t or folding cards they should be playing. Here then are a few leaks to watch out for the next time you pay your buy-in at a single-table tournament…

Small pairs in early position

Even in the early game these hands will be tough to show a profit with. If you limp you are likely to get isolated and if you raise you have so many people behind you to get through. As the blinds increase the value of your small pairs decreases even more, since your implied odds for hitting a set are reduced.
But the point at which people overplay these hands the most is when the blinds get very high and they are in early position with a decent all-in stack. The odds of one player having a pair might be 16-to-1 against, but when there are many players behind you these odds quickly reduce and risking 8-10 big blinds against a full table with middle and low pairs becomes unprofitable. For example, if you are under the gun at a ten-handed table where everyone has ten big blinds, pushing with 9-9 would be unprofitable if your opponents call with 9-9+ and A-Q+, and only T-T+ shows a profit against any calling ranges.

Weak Aces

Most people know that weak unsuited Aces are not great hands in hold’em and this is generally the case in Sit & Go’s too unless you have a very short stack, are in late position or are facing a shove from someone with a very wide range. But because Sit & Go situations are so fluid, what defines a weak Ace is also very conditional. For example, under the gun in a ten-handed game with ten big blinds, even A-Qo would be unprofitable against a range of 9-9+ and A-Q+, and only A-Qs and better should be played. Similarly, when you’re facing a tight pushing range, hands like A-T will lose you a lot of money if you are not careful, since other players rarely push with A-2 through A-9 unless they are in very late position or short-stacked, especially when you are in the late stages and ICM factors degrade your equity even further. These weak Aces do so poorly when called that pushing with A-2o against three players with stacks of ten big blinds is usually a mistake and A-9o only scrapes by in these spots as it fares better against middle pairs.

Calling with weak Aces is obviously not a great prospect, but depending on the situation it still becomes acceptable at certain points. When you know players are shoving wide on the button or cutoff, A-7 to A-9 now become calling hands since your opponent’s shove includes all worse Aces, giving you some situations where you dominate. Worse Aces are rarely worth calling with unless your opponent’s range or the pot odds are favourable as you are rarely far ahead. So in the big blind you might call with any Ace against a wide shove from the cutoff or button for 7-8 big blinds or as many as 10-12 big blinds from the small blind, who should be shoving very wide.

Broadway hands

Where weak Aces are deceptively weak in Sit & Go’s, Broadway hands like K-Q, K-J and Q-J are deceptively strong since they fare reasonably well against all but a small range of hands when called. For this reason Broadways can be pushed in many situations where weak Aces shouldn’t, and also act as reasonable calling hands against wide ranges or when you’re being offered good pot odds. For example, Q-Jo can be shoved for 10BB against four players unless they call very wide, and K-Qs against 5-6 players (again this depends on their exact calling ranges). This may seem surprising but it’s simply because when you are called you’ll often have two live cards against Ace-high or a pair and if not you’ll still have straight and (sometimes) flush outs.

As mentioned they are deceptively good calling hands when players are shoving wide or the pot is pricing you in. When a player in the small blind shoves into you and the bubble is not close, Q-J should be an automatic call for 10BB or less as there will be worse Queens and Jacks in their pushing range. When players are moving in like that their ranges include many weak Kings and suited connectors, so K-Q becomes very call-worthy, especially in the big blind when you are getting additional pot odds. In fact any time you are getting reasonable odds of say 3-to-2 or better and might sometimes have the best hand you should be calling, unless the bubble is a pressing concern. Even some weaker connectors like Q-9 or K-9 can become call-worthy.
 


Comments

lol at DANTHECORB!
It doesn't seem to have put him off as he has won quite a bit of money in the MTTs, judging by his stats!

Comment by Diplomatidocus - 17/02/11 (Report)

i agree anyone calling any site fixed shouldn't play the game.Watch some live poker and you'll see some crazy suck outs and bad beats.Get a grip dan.

Comment by kevfin - 28/03/10 (Report)

it just emphasises your read ability...as a real life player I was always better at reading people rather then the betting and the spread ... but as many say anything is possible...you may know all the odds and be good at calculating winning hands...but theres a bigger contributing factor...and thats your gut instinct.....

Comment by Firekast - 27/03/10 (Report)

that is a very tough hand to play - Danthecorb I mean - AA holecards AKK flop other guy has JJ hole cards JJ turn and river - I have to say guys ... that does sound like the most unlikely thing in the world best fullhouse beaten by 4 of a kind... Ive seen poker players who know nothing but all in win for 2 hours on this site while the rest of the 9 players wait in vain for them to lose... its not that they always win - its that the 9 always lose ... these are amazing odds. What I have learned is that when you think poker cant get any more rridiculously unbelievable, it inevitably does. PATIENCE and Careful play always wins chips. I tilt for sport sometimes just to see if i can actually lose my million chips and believe me guys ... not only is it possible ... its sometimes strangely inevitable.

Comment by oggystoop - 26/02/10 (Report)

more advice please mr shaw,very helpful

Comment by sh4rp3 - 16/02/10 (Report)

i´ve seen some incredible stuff on poker and on pkr and some times just loose it, but for all u who say that the sit is fixed, u should see more poker touneys on tv and even search some on youtube.then u would understand that anythibg is possiblr in poker.

Comment by Pedrofga - 11/02/10 (Report)

calling in with aa or kk is still going in with only a pair,ul.

Comment by damian78 - 10/02/10 (Report)

Yup. anyone calling poker sites rigged or fixed is a loser by default. Someone who doesn't think and probably also believes that 9/11 was organised by the CIA. For people like that, logic and statistics don't matter, frustration is the only thing that counts.

Comment by vegahaai - 10/02/10 (Report)

Edited on: 11 Feb 2010 22:57

"you mean lose

Comment by ZxDaKeV - 05/02/10 (Report)"

lol, no he probably does mean loose - as in, plays too..

Comment by jessthehuman - 10/02/10 (Report)

I can't agree more Poker is truly a game where you get what you deserve, every site has the same losers claiming it's all fixed and I guess in a way it is, Bad Player = Bad Returns thats poker.

Comment by ElBuitre007 - 07/02/10 (Report)

infact his last sentence sums it all up..........................................................I LOOSE!

EAAAAAAAAAAAOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Comment by shanepauper1979 - 06/02/10 (Report)

just like to respond to danthecornonthefuckingcob what a plonker so many players always refering to the site as fixed yet these noobs still put their money in and whinge when they lose well let me just get a tissue and wipe the tears from my eyes at your hardship. Try improving your game and then maybe the odds of you winning will go in your favour until then be careful they are watching you!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by shanepauper1979 - 06/02/10 (Report)

thats poker

Comment by MartieQ - 05/02/10 (Report)

you mean lose

Comment by ZxDaKeV - 05/02/10 (Report)

THIS SITE ALWAYS FAVOURS THE LARGER STACKED ITS BOLLOCKS NO MATTER WHAT HAND YOU HAVE I HAD AA AND A K K CAME ON FLOP LARGE STACK GOES ALL IN I CALL HE HAS JJ TURN CARD J AND RIVER J FIXED AS FUCK I LOOSE

Comment by DANTHECORB - 05/02/10 (Report)

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Scott, i've been playing live for the last 2 years 3 times a week. £10 buyin with £5 rebuy. What you say works perfectly live and online, espesciaaly against players who are drinking whilst playin. Thanks for advice, keep it coming. Ravan

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Pretty sure this is aimed at players who are starting out, and that there are limits to SNG strategy so much of it will have been said before (like most poker strategy), but this series is specifically aimed at the player experience at a particular level on PKR, from a Team Pro who has actually done it himself. If this series helps one player to improve, which it will, it will have done its job.

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